How to tell if tie rod is bad

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:53:18 -0500
From: THOMAS VENDITTO <tomjvv verizon.net>
To: VR6 Digest <list gti-vr6.net><email to.com>
Subject: [gti-vr6] Tie Rod End
Cc:
  My passenger side tie rod end has no rubber on it. What does this mean? How does this part

failure manifest itself?

TomJV


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:36:01 -0600
From: -T. <noisy.ant gmail.com>
To: THOMAS VENDITTO <tomjvv verizon.net>, VR6 Digest <list gti-vr6.net><email to.com>
Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] Tie Rod End
Cc:
  Jack that wheel off the ground, grab it and give it a shake. See if there is any play in the tie

rod end. If there isn't now, there probably will be before too long. If you replace one, replace the other. They are pretty straight forward to change and don't cost too much.

-T.


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:48:53 -0800 (PST)
From: VW Golf <vr6nitedriver yahoo.com>
To: -T. <noisy.ant gmail.com>, THOMAS VENDITTO <tomjvv verizon.net>, VR6 Digest <list gti-vr6.net><email to.com>
Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] Tie Rod End
Cc:
  Umm, you cant really check the tie rod ends like that,

easiest way would be to remove your tire and trying pushing on the tie rod it self, and see if there is any movement. Since your boot is gone you might as well replace it, which means you will need an alignment after that. Change both since you will be doing an alignment.


Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:24:01 -0600
From: -T. <noisy.ant gmail.com>
To: VW Golf <vr6nitedriver yahoo.com><email to.com>
Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] Tie Rod End
Cc: VR6 Digest <list gti-vr6.net>
  Oh c'mon. If you have the front wheel off the ground, and you grab the

wheel and wiggle it - as if you are trying to turn the wheels from left to right without using the steering wheel, there is usually a fairly audible *clunk* in the TRE if it is worn. It's a good quick check anyway. Then you can start taking things off the car. And the same thing I mentioned before about removing knuckles works good for TRE. Hit the tie rod with a light coat of a light colored spraypaint before you remove the TRE. When you remove them you'll be able to see right where they were sitting on the tie rod. Thread the new ones on right back to that spot and you're alignment will be pretty close. Close enough that you won't have to rush to the alignment rack. -T.


Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:59:08 -0800 (PST)
From: VW Golf <vr6nitedriver yahoo.com>
To: -T. <noisy.ant gmail.com><email to.com>
Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] Tie Rod End
Cc: VR6 Digest <list gti-vr6.net>
  Your statement is not ACCURATE

so what your telling me is, if i my tire moves right and left, that its my tie rod?? errrr wrong, maybe my bearing is shot as well, so it will go clunk clunk, when your tire is on, its misleading.

Also since tie rod ends cost 18$ a piece, i wouldnt even go any further with this, just replace it. As per alignment, no need to skimp out on one, close is not good enough, destroying your tires is not worth it.


Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:11:06 -0600
From: -T. <noisy.ant gmail.com>
To: VW Golf <vr6nitedriver yahoo.com><email to.com>
Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] Tie Rod End
Cc: VR6 Digest <list gti-vr6.net>
  Exactly. If there is a clunk then you need to investigate further. Like

actually putting one had on the TRE and seeing if that is the point of the movement, or if it is coming from someplace else. The ACCURATE point that I was trying to make is that you don't immediately have to start taking wheels off and disassembling stuff right from the get go.

And as far as the alignment, I was only offering a suggestion for a way to get the thing close for the near term. You could use the method I suggested and drive the car for a couple of days until you had time to get it on the rack. Putting even a hundred miles on a set of 50,000 mile tires with the alignment off by a hair isn't going to run them down to the cords by any means. I'll admit that I'm probably the tight ass of this group and have been doing my own alignments in my garage with some string, and angle finder and a 10 dollar Harbor Freight toe-in gauge for, oh, 10 years or so and have never had a problem with tires wearing improperly.

But no problem. I'll keep quiet and let you handle the technical end of things from this point. -T. (penny pinching edition)