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hey drivers,
Just tightened up my sub-frame and the car feels much better.
It must have loosened since I installed the sway bars so if you have sway
bars and its been six months check the sub-frame.

later,
adam

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At 01:27 PM 8/6/98 -0400, you wrote:
>hey drivers,
>Just tightened up my sub-frame and the car feels much better.
>It must have loosened since I installed the sway bars so if you have sway
>bars and its been six months check the sub-frame.
>
>later,
>adam
>
>Adam, I believe the sub frame bolts should be replaced and not retightened
because they are stretch bolts. There is a specific torque sequence to follow.

Don
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> Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] tightened the sub-frame
&gt; From: &#100;eecee&#64;exit109<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>
> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 20:30:54 -0400

>> Just tightened up my sub-frame and the car feels much better.
>> It must have loosened since I installed the sway bars so if
>> you have sway bars and its been six months check the sub-frame.

> Adam, I believe the sub frame bolts should be replaced and not
> retightened because they are stretch bolts.
> There is a specific torque sequence to follow.

Hmm.  Bentley gives a torque spec (which varies from bolt-to-bolt) "plus
1/4 turn".   That does almost sound like a stretch bolt doesn't it?
But  they don't say you should replace the bolts and they're not usually
shy about that...

-Uwe-

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&#100;eecee&#64;exit109<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15> wrote:
>
> Adam, I believe the sub frame bolts should be replaced and not
> retightened because they are stretch bolts. There is a specific
> torque sequence to follow.

Can we verify this?  Neuspeed's swaybar installation didn't say
anything about changing the bolts.  My Bentley says that the
front two bolts should be tightened to 70nm + 1/4 turn more.
Does that mean it's a stretch bolt?  If so, anybody else wanna
own a piece of Neuspeed???

-Arthur


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> > Adam, I believe the sub frame bolts should be replaced and not
> > retightened because they are stretch bolts.
> > There is a specific torque sequence to follow.
>
> Hmm.  Bentley gives a torque spec (which varies from bolt-to-bolt) "plus
> 1/4 turn".   That does almost sound like a stretch bolt doesn't it?
> But  they don't say you should replace the bolts and they're not usually
> shy about that...
>
> -Uwe-

I did torque them down to spec and followed the proper sequence.  The car
feels great.  If it starts to loosen up again I will replace the bolts.
Over half of my rattles are gone 8)

- adam
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