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Fellas, and ladies,

Finally finished the NOS install yesterday. All I can say is HOLY F*CKING
SH*T!!!!!

It took all day as I was being 6x extra careful but it was worth it. I must
say I was pretty scared the first time I hit it. I had the cell ready to
call for help. Ahhh, but it was not needed.

I only have the 50 shot on now but will be jumping to 75 after breakfast.

This is a Nitrous Express kit BTW, the hardest part was choosing a good
place for the switches. Other than that it was a real breeze.

Dave
95 GTI-VR6 NOS


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I've got a Nitrous Express kit. 75 hp shot but I will run 100 at the track
this weekend. It is a single fogger, wet system. I have it set up to run off
my heated seat switch for a full stealth look. I have a in line fuel
pressure sensor wired so if the fuel is inadequate, the NOS solenoids won't
work. In addition I have a thermostatically controlled bottle heater to
maintain the 900psi of the juice. I really like my system as it is very tidy
and very spectacular when it comes time to crush that odd M3...

Dave
95 GTI-VR6N

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Wall &lt;&#106;asonw&#64;fatbrain<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>&gt;
To: 'Steve Ingels' &lt;&#115;svr6&#64;hotmail<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>&gt;; &#103;ti-vr6&#64;ccsi<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15> &lt;&gt;
Date: Friday, May 28, 1999 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: [gti-vr6] What is the stock fuel and oil pressure


>i bought kit 05123 (dry-manifold setup for EFI engines between 2.5-3.0
>liters). found out last night that it had actually arrived on tuesday...  but
&gt;the stupid b$@%& in the office at my apartments didn't bother to tell anyone
>it was here. well, thanks.
>
>hope to install it this weekend. i'll let the list know how it goes.
>
>jason wall
>network/nt administrator
>http://fatbrain.com/
>1998 VW GTI VR6 (k&n filter, neuspeed ecu, neuspeed race springs, koni
>adjustable shocks, nd/borla exhaust)
>1997 VW Golf 8V (stock... for the moment)
>1986 Toyota Celica 3SGE (k&n filter, ngk plug wires, lightened)
>
>"nobody likes you when you're 23 / and you still act like you're in freshman
>year..."
>
>> -----Original Message-----
&gt;&gt; From: Steve Ingels [SMTP:&#115;svr6&#64;hotmail<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>]
>> Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 6:16 AM
&gt;&gt; To: &#103;ti-vr6&#64;ccsi<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>
>> Subject: [gti-vr6] What is the stock fuel and oil pressure
>>
>> I searched the library but didn't find what I needed. I'm getting a NOS kit
>> for my '98 VR6 and just wanted to get some stats on it before I by the kit.
>>
>> If anyone has a NOS kit please let me know what kit you got.
>>
>> Almost forgot, I plan on using a 75 shot if that helps.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------
>> "It's all about German Autocrafting.".....
>> '98 Candy White GTI VR6  "Soon to be spraying edition."

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the danger isn't so much uneven nitrous distribution with a wet system, but
uneven fuel distribution. nitrous tends to expand (a lot) when hitting the
intake tract, as it's starting out as a very cold liquid, and becoming a
room-temperature gas.

fuel, however, is just getting atomized in a wet system, and with all the
twists and turns in the VR6 intake manifold, i'd wonder if all of it really
gets to the cylinders instead of ending up on one wall or another inside the
manifold.

not knocking the NX kit at all... we'll have to compare times after we run,
dave, but i'm thinking about jetting my NOS kit for a 100-shot, because the
director of distribition at my work just bought a used Viper RT/10, and i
know he can't drive for shit, so i'm looking to hit him up for a race on the
long, straight street in front of our building sometime soon...

jason wall
network/nt administrator
http://fatbrain.com/
1998 VW GTI VR6 (k&n filter, neuspeed ecu, neuspeed race springs, koni
adjustable shocks, nd/borla exhaust)
1997 VW Golf 8V (stock... for the moment)
1986 Toyota Celica 3SGE (k&n filter, ngk plug wires, lightened)

> -----Original Message-----
&gt; From:	Eric Liew [SMTP:&#101;liew&#64;bigfoot<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>]
> Sent:	Friday, May 28, 1999 10:11 AM
> To:	dave
&gt; Cc:	'Steve Ingels'; &#103;ti-vr6&#64;ccsi<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>
> Subject:	Re: [gti-vr6] What is the stock fuel and oil pressure
> 
> On 08:51 AM 5/28/99 +0000, dave said :
> >I've got a Nitrous Express kit. 75 hp shot but I will run 100 at the track
> >this weekend. It is a single fogger, wet system. I have it set up to run off
> 
> Isn't there a danger of uneven nitrous distribution to the cylinders when
> using a single fogger wet system?
> 
> el
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well, i'm about halfway done with my NOS kit, and the fuel switch will get
installed tonight. from what i read, it cuts off if fuel pressure is below
52psi. (i got kit 05123... same as you?)

from the pages i read, it only became a problem cutting out at high rpm's in
third gear... best case scenario, i have my kit finished tonight and the
bottle filled up tomorrow, in which case i'll be doing a bit of high-speed
"testing" on Caribbean Ave near my work... i'll let you know how it goes =)

but i can tell you that what i've done so far has been no sweat at all.

i thought the microswitch that gets triggered by the throttle body would be
difficult, but if you look about 3in down and inward from the TB, there's an
allen bolt that will utilise the bracket included in the kit with a very
minor amount of bending on the bracket's part (which can be done by hand
once the bracket is in and the bolt is tightened up again... just tweak it a
bit).

i mounted the solenoid assembly (use blue loctite goo to put that
together... NO TAPE) on the top-most part of the firewall... the bolt that
goes through the sheet metal is about 2" left of the ECU on the other side.
from there, popping the jet into the intake tract is pretty straightforward.
regardless of what the directions say... between 6 and 8 in from the TB is
best. this basically means as far down the plastic intake tube as you can
get without mounting it in the "accordion" part.

once you've done that, cut the vacuum line that comes off of the fuel
pressure regulator, which is on the driver's side of the fuel rail. i cut
into the long one that heads straight down from the FPR, then plugged in the
fuel jet assembly. again, no sweat. from there, run a vacuum line from there
to the solenoid assembly again.

so that's what's done... tonight/tomorrow:

mounting the arming switch (since i don't want it on all the time ;)
mounting the bottle in the spare tire well (on the driver's side to avoid
the fuel tank)
mounting the relay in the engine bay, and wiring it to the battery, WOT
microswitch, arming switch, fuel sensor, and solenoids (which is a lot more
straightforward than it sounds)
installing the fuel pressure switch (will be cutting into the fuel lines
next to the airbox)

from there, all that's left is to fill the bottle and go have some fun in an
isolated, deserted area =)

i'll post more whenever i'm done, since i'm about at the halfway point right
now.

list, feel free to reply with questions.

jason wall
network/NT administrator
http://www.fatbrain.com/
1998 VW GTI VR6
1997 VW Golf 8V
1988 Toyota Celica Turbo All-Trac

> -----Original Message-----
&gt; From:	Steve Ingels [SMTP:&#115;svr6&#64;hotmail<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>]
> Sent:	Tuesday, June 01, 1999 9:55 AM
&gt; To:	&#103;ti-vr6&#64;ccsi<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>
> Subject:	[gti-vr6] Fuel Pressure
> 
> Does anyone know what the stock fuel pressure is for a 98 GTI VR6? I 
> searched the library and found nothing.
> I'm planning on a adding a NOS system and I want to know what the stock fuel 
> pressure is in regards to the new kit.
> 
> I would also like to know if anyone tried this while their vehicle was under 
> warranty and if it caused any problems. A friend of mine has a Maxima and 
> they had no problem with it as long as it wasn't adjustable.
> 
> Any Stories would be appreciated.
> 
> Steve
> 
> '98 Candy White soon to be sprayin' edition.

didn't get to work on it at all last night, but the night before i pulled
the fuel sender cover and ran the nitrous line from the trunk to the engine
bay using the harness that the fuel lines are currently in (i lucked out...
there was an open space on my harness and the NOS line popped right in. only
2 zip ties from front to back, mostly because i'm paranoid). there's a rear
brake line that hangs down below where the NOS line will come out from the
fuel sender cover... run the NOS line *over* this, not under it, like i did
at first.

also mounted the relay that connects to battery, microswitch, fuel sensor,
and arm switch, but didn't actually wire any of these accessories up.

i'll warn you that the fuel pressure sensor might be a pain in the ass.
finding parts to make it jive with the rest of the fuel system is a bit
difficult... right now i need a male/male union that is 3/16 inverted thread
on one end and 1/4 inverted thread on the other so i can hook everything up.
but, once that's done, all i have to do is cut about an inch out of the fuel
line next to the air box, pop in the t-junction i bought, and wire it up to
the aforementioned relay. the easiest way to do this would be to get a 3/16
inverted thread female/female union, but i was unable to find a fuel barb
connector with any kind of 3/16 on the other end, hence the size step-up.

the bottle has its brackets on and is sitting in the spare tire well, but i
still need to screw it down (carefully, as the fuel tank is right below the
sheet metal i'm mounting to). i'd suggest mounting your bottle on the far
left of the trunk... i would, but i've got an 8" tube subwoofer there.

also, kit 05123 as set up with the .36 NOS jet and the .42 fuel jet is a
60-shot, not a 50-shot (according to the manual).

Jason Wall
Network/NT Administrator
http://fatbrain.com {*}
1998 VW GTI VR6 (k&n filter, neuspeed ecu, neuspeed race springs, koni
adjustable shocks, ND/Borla exhaust, NOS kit in progress)
1997 VW Golf 8V (stock... for the moment)
1988 Toyota Celica 3SGTE-AWD (new addition)

> -----Original Message-----
&gt; From:	Steve Ingels [SMTP:&#115;svr6&#64;hotmail<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>]
> Sent:	Thursday, June 03, 1999 7:47 AM
&gt; To:	&#106;asonw&#64;fatbrain<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>
> Subject:	NOS
> 
> Please keep me posted on your install. I plan on getting 05124 so that I
> can 
> hit mine with the 70 shot instead of the 50 shot.
> LMK how all goes.
> Thanks,
> Steve