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Hella has come out with "Golf 4 style" headlights that are a direct
replacement fit in a Euro Golf 3 !!!!

http://www.wso.net/ross/Uwe/VR6/misc/hella_g3-4.jpg



The above pic now here.  aqn.



I just ordered a set from Germany.   Yes, I know, a "direct replacement"
for a Euro Golf is not a direct replacement for our "Hecho en Mexico"
cars.   But I am bound and determined to find a way to make this work.   It
is my intention to come up with an installation kit.  Unlike the "real"
Golf-4 headlights, these should not require a new grill or "fillers".

The retail price of these lights in Germany is about $315.00/set at today's
exchange rate.  This does not include shipping or import duties.  I am
looking into quantity pricing.

How many of you guys would be interested in a "group purchase" for a "kit"
of these lights?    I'm hoping that in some quantity, it can be made to
happen (complete mechanical and electrical kit) for under $400.   E-mail me
privately if you are seriously interested.   Seriously interested means
that you'd be willing to put up a deposit of at least $100 to make this
happen (refundable if it doesn't).

-Uwe-

Strictly Foreign has had these kit availble for about 2-3 months now.  They
come with a custom grill to fill the gaps.  Personally i do not like the look
but this is my opinion.

Jeff

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&#86;WGTi&#64;aol<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15> wrote:
>
> Strictly Foreign has had these kit availble for about 2-3 months now.  They
> come with a custom grill to fill the gaps.  Personally i do not like the look
> but this is my opinion.
>
> Jeff

No, Strictly Foreign does not have these.  What Strictly Foreign sells is a
kit to put *real* Golf-4 lights in our cars.

These lights (here's a close-up)
http://www.wso.net/ross/Uwe/VR6/misc/hella_g3-4_a.jpg


The above pic is now here.  aqn.


are brand new, just introduced in Europe, strictly an aftermarket light,
that installs as a *direct replacement* (absolutely no mods required) in a
(euro) Golf-3.   That's the beauty of these.  Because they are made
specifically as a retrofit to the Golf-3, they will not leave any gap to be
filled!

They will however, require some mods to get them mounted and some wiring
harness adaptation...

-Uwe-

Michael Stewart wrote:
>
> These lights will probably need the same harness that the older hella quads
> need.
> I have the blackout quads and all I had to do was drill a hole for the
> upper-inner screw...(thanks to Potterman's harness) I wonder if I can take
> all the harness stuff off my current hellas and put them on the new ones?
> It *should* work seeing that the hellas we have now are made for the same
> euro A3 that the new ones are for.
>
> What do you all think?

This remains to be seen.  For one thing, the older Hella dual-rounds don't
have built in fogs (which I'm 98% sure these do).  Remember that other
lights intended for the Euro Golf-3 (like the Projekt Zwo, Abt, or even the
"stock" Euro lamps) don't fit in our "Hecho en Mexico" cars quite as easily
as the Hella dual-rounds.

Like I said, I've ordered a set.  As soon as they arrive, I will have a
look and see what it will take.   I will only ask for deposits on a group
purchase when I've got it all figured out and have quantity pricing info.
But I still need to know how many people are seriously interested...

-Uwe-

spurgeon &geri foster wrote:
>
> Hey Uwe, do you know what kind of lighting these produce? Are they xenon
> projection type ? We all could probably use a little more info if you have
> it. Thanks
> Later

They use Hella "Free Form" reflector technology, but I'm 99.9% sure that
they use "regular" (halogen) Euro bulbs (H1 ?) They are certainly not HID
lamps (that technology is *way* expensive).   I will post a translation of
the "brochure", hopefully later today...

-Uwe-

At 08:58 AM 12/1/98 -0800, Jeff Newton wrote:
>Anyone have a translation for this page?  Just curious about the
>features, etc, etc.
>

There isn't much to be learned from the brochure--almost all of the text is
promotional, "More light, improved safety, and a modern appearance"
basically.  There's also a general description of FF-Technik which talks
about the small size and high performance of the units, the even dispersion
of the main beam and the far-reaching high beam.  The integrated fog lights
are designed to minimize returning glare.  There are city lights.  Optical
components are laser-cut.

Hella FF/DE headlights work really, really well.  I'd buy these if I had a
Golf.

Steve
94 P GLX
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If anyone cares, I have now have the installation instructions.
Of course, these are for European cars, ours will be somewhat different.

http://www.wso.net/ross/Uwe/VR6/misc/g34_inst_0.gif
http://www.wso.net/ross/Uwe/VR6/misc/g34_inst_1.gif

The pics are now here:
g34_inst_0.gif
g34_inst_1.gif


* The bulbs are said to be H7's and are included.
  - Anyone know if H7's are generally available on this side of the pond?
* Integral fog lights.
* Unlike the real Golf-IV, they do not have integral turn signals.
* They do have a fourth light position that's said to be a "standing"
(marker) light.

-Uwe-

> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:38:38 -0500
&gt; From: Judson Main &lt;&#106;main&#64;erols<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>&gt;
> Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] potterman got de hookup
>
> Nice photo.  But I really need more photos of the car
> with the lights in order to make a judgment.

Potterman sent me this a week or two ago:

http://www.wso.net/ross/Uwe/VR6/misc/a4a3lights.jpg

Pic is now here. aqn


Along with a pic of the required mod to the radiator support:

http://www.wso.net/ross/Uwe/VR6/misc/a4a3mod.jpg

Pic is now here. aqn


-Uwe-  (I have these lights, but no, they're not installed yet)
--

Brendan,
It's just a dummy reflector.  There's no fog on the mkIV style lights for
mk3's.  And actually the small light above it is a city light, and comes
with a white bulb.  The ones you've seen with amber are those that have been
replaced with an amber bulb.
Here's mine:
http://cchar.freeservers.com/my_1998_gti-vr6.htm

Here's a silver arrow gti with the mkIV's and a kamei grille:
http://cchar.freeservers.com/jason's_1998_gti-vr6.htm

And here's a red gti with kamei grille and eyelids:
http://cchar.freeservers.com/marcus'_19.htm

The mkIV style lights became the "in" thing after the dual round light craze
died down.  Now it looks like a lot of people are going with "E-code"
headlights. They're what the golfs and jetta's get stock in europe.  Much
better light output than our stock lights, but not as good as the Hella dual
rounds.

-Costas