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Re: [gti-vr6] 4-5 point belt Mike Bigus <gtivr6r@chicagonet> Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:16:08 -0500
Re: [gti-vr6] 4-5 point belt Arthur Emerson <emerson@eideti> Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:56:48 -0400



From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Sat Apr 18 09:19 CDT 1998
From: Mike Bigus <gtivr6r@chicagonet>
To: Adam Newlin <axn110@psu>
Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] 4-5 point belt
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:16:08 -0500
Cc: gti-vr6@dev.tivoli
 
Adam Newlin wrote:
> 
> Hey,

Hi Adam,

 
> Does anyone out there have a 4 or 5 point safety belt installed in their GTI?
yes

 
> If so, who manufactured?
Schroth (pronounced 'shrote')

 
> How much was it?
$127 from t.h, but New Dimensions sells them for the same price
(one of the last thing I bought from t.h., y'all know why)

 
> What's the installation like?
Ever have wisdom teeth pulled?
It really wasn't that bad, more like having your leg amputated during 
the Civil War. :-)

No, seriously, it bolts into the car using stock bolt locations.  The 
only tricky part is bolting it beside the seat where the seat belt
buckels.
You have to remove the front seat from it's track and tip it forward so
you
can get at the bolt hiden underneath the seat.  The back bolts to the
stock
back seat seatbelt locations.  If you need to carry more people, simply
unbuckel the harness and tuck the backseat protion under the back seat.
Stock front and rear seatbelts remain functional regardless.

Its also the ONLY harness thats DOT approved and STREET LEGAL! So if 
mr. policeman ever pulls you over, your ok seatbelt/harness wise.


> Who installed it? 
I did.


> Are the installation holes easily hidden if/when it's removed?
I have the Rally-4 4 point harness.  It mounts to stock OE bolt hole
locations
beside the drivers seat and under the back seat.  Remove the harness and
you'll
never know it was in there.

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From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Mon Apr 20 17:06 CDT 1998
From: Arthur Emerson <emerson@eideti>
To: Adam Newlin <axn110@psu>
Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] 4-5 point belt
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:56:48 -0400
Cc: gti-vr6@dev.tivoli
 
Adam Newlin wrote:
> 
> Does anyone out there have a 4 or 5 point safety belt installed in their GTI?
> 
> If so, who manufactured?

Schroth Rallye-4's.

> How much was it?

For me, free. (Don't ask!)  For everyone else, about $120.

> What's the installation like?

Remove 4 factory bolts, stick harness tabs underneath, re-install bolts.

> Are the installation holes easily hidden if/when it's removed?

There ain't no holes to hide.  They screw to existing seat belt mounting
bolts.  Follow the directions *exactly*, or you could be paralyzed
for life in an accident.  Over half of all Schroth installs that
I've seen were wrong!

The Schroth Rallye-3 and Rallye-4 harnesses are street-legal.  Trust
me, the novelty wears off of them quickly on the street.  They are
3 or 4 point harnesses, and only 2" wide.  As such, they don't meet
the requirements of many racing organizations.  If you plan to do
more than autocross, they are not the ticket.

You can get a set of cam-lock 5-point, 3" harnesses from many racing
shops for around the same price.  The "latch and link" harnesses
are even less.  The only problem is that you will have to measure
for each component, and order them separately.  The results won't
be street-legal, but they will get you through tech at just about
any race track event.  Check with your local sanctioning body
about what SFI number requirements they have before you buy. Also,
if you plan on bringing an instructor along for a ride, many require
the same belts for the instructor as the driver is using.....

-Arthur

1995 Black GTI VR6 #16 GS PSCC/NYR-SCCA/HVCSCC
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